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7 years 1 month ago #8071 by Jerommeh M. Ampatua
mayrun bang frustrated arson?.....

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7 years 1 month ago #8078 by Alberto Eclavia
meron

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7 years 4 weeks ago #8098 by Ronald G Ceniza
i think there is no such thing as frustrated arson .

c [EN] iza

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7 years 3 weeks ago #8104 by cire
OU...

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7 years 3 weeks ago #8106 by Horizonz
there is no such thing as frustrated arson the same as frustrated rape;) but there are books states that there is a frust. arson but in applications to law attempted and consummated lng po;)

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7 years 2 weeks ago #8120 by gwyndolyn
wla pung frustrated arson :)

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6 years 8 months ago #8334 by jan
no frustrated arson..read the law on arson:)

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6 years 8 months ago #8337 by sgt. scout
WALA

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6 years 8 months ago #8368 by Neriecar Prado
hmmm der is no frustrated arson because once der is an occurrence of fire through malicious burning it is presumed that the crime committed is consumated i guess. Correct me if Im wrong guyz....

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6 years 7 months ago #8500 by rj de leon
yah there is no frus.arson but there is a attempted arson attempted arson is act of doing something but frus is you already done the crime but did not succeed tama po ba hehehehe :P ;) :P ;) :P

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6 years 7 months ago #8522 by ZianMichael
:cheer: yeah! u right, in the revised penal code there is no such frustrated arson or frustrated rape.

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6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #9008 by Mark Vincent P. Balbuena
Mmm, maybe my professor is wrong.,

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6 years 1 month ago #9107 by nel
walang frustrated arson ah!

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6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #9110 by Keith Richard Bertulano
Nalito din ako dito dati kung mayroon ba talagang frustrated arson.
kahit naman po sa PD 1613 or law on arson wala namang nakalagay
na consummated, at attempted doon, ang nakalagay lang is yung punishment
at acts bago mo ma commit yung arson or destructive arson.

Pero pag nagbasa kayo ng mga facts of the case may makikita kayong frustrated arson na decision ng court best example na yung case ng People of the Philippines vs Antonino
Hernandez

at naliwanagan pa ako nung pinaliwanag sa amin to ng prof namin sa Law

Meron pong FRUSTRATED ARSON.

Consummated : if any part of the building is burned.

Frustrated: if you lit any materials to start a fire, but no part of the building is burned.
(Example nito yung may ginawa ka ng fire pero wala pang nasunog in any part of the building,,,basis raw dito ng court kapag may flame or fire na ,but wala pang part of the building na nasunog crime is frustrated arson...Pero kapag may nasunog na in any part kahit pintuan lang or napakaliit na part of the building that is consumated.

Attempted: Overt acts to start a fire (Example nito yung nagbubuhos ka na ng gaas or any material pero wala pang start of fire or pagsindi ng posporo para mag start ng fire pero sa kamalas malasan ayaw sumindi, that is attempted arson.

General rule preparatory acts of arson is not punishable...
(Example nito yung paghahanda pa lang ng panununog like pagbili na ng gaas o gasolina na gagamitin sa panununog or meron ka ng hawak na gasolina pero hindi mo pa binubuhos that is only preparatory acts and it is not punishable.Pero kapag binuhos na at wala namang start of fire, overt acts na yan and that is attempted arson.

Para po may basis kayo basahin niyo po People of the Philippines vs. Antonino Hernandez case.(Supreme Court Decision)
(Facts of the case: Decision ng lower court is frustrated arson but nung ni-review ulit ng SC nabago ang decision naging consummated kc may nasunog ng part of the house, dito palang sa case nato masasabi mo ng merong frustrated arson, kc frustrated arson dapat kinaso sa kanya kaso binago ng supreme court at maliwanag na dito sabi ng SC hindi basehan yung liit o laki ng damage ng house or building ang basis rw nila kapag meron ng nasunog in ANY part maliit man o malaki yung damage that is consummated na agad yun sabi nga diba "Law is harsh but it is the law" (dura lex sed lex) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .Pero kapag wala namang nasunog kahit saaan part ng house or building pero may FIRE na nangyari that is only frustrated..
...click niyo link sa baba....
www.chanrobles.com/scdecisions/jurisprud.../gr_l-31770_1929.php

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6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #9111 by Keith Richard Bertulano
;) ;) :laugh: :laugh: ;) ;) ;)
Example of Consummated:
Si X sinunog ang bahay ni A. Pero yung nasunog lang is yung bintana at dumating agad si A para mapatay ang apoy.

(Frustrated lang ba ginawa ni X?, kc hindi naman nasunog ang buong bahay nabigo pa siyang sunugin lahat at napatay naman agad ni A ang apoy!!)

Answer: No it is consummated dahil hindi basehan ang laki o liit ng damage ng panunog para matawag na consummated, frustrated or attempted. Ang basehan is meron ng nasunong in any part ng house or building. Khit gaano pa kaliit ang napinsala mo sa bahay consummated na agad yun.

Example of Frustrated:
Si X gustong sunugin ang bahay ni Z, at binuhos niya ang gasolina or gaas malapit sa pintuan ni Z at nagkaroon ng apoy in that area, pero nakita siya ni Z at pinatay yung apoy bago pa masunog yung pintuan niya. Walang nasunog sa bahay ni Z kahit kaunti.

(Consummated na ba yun?, kc mayroon na siyang malicious intent para sunugin yng bahay.)

Answer: No, oo arson na siya pero that is only Frustrated arson and it is not Consummated, dahil wala namang burn or sunog doon sa part ng bahay.

Example of Attempted
Si X gustong sunugin ang bahay ni C,bumili siya ng gasolina at binuhos sa buong bahay ni C, pero nung sinindihan niya ang posporo ayaw sumindi dahil biglang umulan hanggang sa nahuli siya ni C.

(Anong stage ng arson ang nagawa ni X?, wala naman apoy na nangyari at hindi naman nasunog yung bahay ni C.)

Answer: Attempted arson, kc meron ng overt acts na nangyari., ang overt act doon ay pag buhos niya ng gasolina at pagsindi niya ng posporo, at kahit hindi pa niya sindihan ang posporo attemted parin dahil nagbuhos na siya ng gasolina.

Pero paano naman kapag hawak niya lang gallon na mayroong gasolina pero hindi niya binuhos?)

(Attempted arson ba yung crime niya, kc may hawak siyang gallon ng gasolina at gagamitin niya yun sa panununog?)

Answer : No crime. preparatory acts palang ang ginagawa niya at wala pang overt acts.

General rule...Preparatory acts is not punishable......not only for crime of arson.

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